1964 Crestliner Del Rio

1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106698

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This is my first attempt at a restore. I found this 1964 Del Rio that was sitting wide open in someone's yard for at least 5 or 6 years. I knew everything would be rotten, but the hull looked to be in great shape. I decided to do a top off restore. I'm so glad I found Fiberglassics. Great info here. I'm sure I'll be asking a lot of questions. Jim

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106699

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Out in the yard Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106700

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	In the garage Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106701

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Starting to tear out the rotten floor. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106702

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	After removing the windshield, dash and all the other attachments, I removed the deck and hoisted it up to the ceiling and out of the way. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106703

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	The stringers were basically mush with fiberglass tab sides. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106704

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Stringers ground out. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106705

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Inside skin of the transom cut out. I'm in the process of scraping out the rotten wood. That's where I stand right now. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106708

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Jim, the del rio is a good boat to use. I had a '62. They must have changed the stringer system sometime around '63 cause mine had 100% fiberglass stringers with vinyl covered marine plywood screwed to the stringers with stainless steel screws. And mine came factory with a piece of plywood screwed to the outside of the transom. Why,I don't know cause it didn't need it. Did yours have poured foam or foam strips under the floor? I still have some pics of the floor etc,if you need any.jim

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106709

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That's interesting that they would go from fiberglass stringers to wood stringers. There was white styrofoam pieces under the deck. Are you saying that could have been from the factory? I just assumed the previous owner cut up a bunch of coolers and threw them in there. Haha. They were just kind of stacked in between the stringer. Not cut to fit nice or anything.

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106712

Jim L Offline Platinum Boarder Posts: 1426 Karma: 60 Thank you received: 2	Jim,here's the way mine was done. The boat was completely original as I got it from the original owner's estate. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106715

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Yeah that's the same foam that was in mine. It was all very waterlogged. I am planning on replacing mine with pour foam. I don't know if I'm using the correct terminology when I say 'stringers' as mine run side to side as opposed to your stringers. Very interesting. Thank you for posting those. Jim

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Re: 1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106718

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106729

MarkS Offline Moderator Posts: 5348 Karma: 118 Thank you received: 5	Welcome Jim, glad to have you join us. As you can see lots of great folks willing to help here, nice project boat too! Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #106992

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Thank you satx and MarkS. I love this site and I've been pouring over it the last several months. I just turned 50 last year and I remember having to go to the library every time you needed information on something. It's amazing the amount of expertise that is at your fingertips these days. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 8 months ago #107002

Waterwings Offline Contributing Member Posts: 4887 Karma: 107 Thank you received: 100	Jim, welcome aboard, good project and great progress so far. Bob Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 5 months ago #110703

CrestlinerArabianDX Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 28 Thank you received: 0	Hi Jim, and welcome to the site. We are at similar stages on our boats. Have fun, nice looking hull. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 5 months ago #110979

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Thank you! I wish I could say I was further along with it, but I'm in the building industry and we have been crazy busy this Winter and Spring here in Ohio. It's good to see things coming back finally, but the boat progress is suffering. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 1 month ago #115680

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Finally got some time to get back to work. New transom cut from two layers of 3/4" marine plywood. I left a lifting tab on top so I can get it in and out with my engine hoist that I'll cut off after I get it installed. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 1 month ago #115681

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Ribs cut and fitted. I would appreciate any opinions on how to seat the ribs prior to tabbing them in. I've been reading about avoiding hard spots where they directly contact the hull. Would it be dumb to add a strip of foam at the bottom? I was thinking something like sill sealer used in construction that goes between the top of a block wall and the wood sill plate.

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 1 month ago #115682

73Crestliner Offline Senior Boarder Posts: 228 Karma: 9 Thank you received: 0	Good to see the progress. I will leave the sealer question to the pros. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 1 month ago #115697

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Jim, good progress! I'm no expert but if it were me I'd seal them with CPES, bed it in 5200 once the CPES is dry. Once the 5200 dries glass them in. I'd make sure any of the squeeze out was out of the way before glassing. I have to admit I haven't had to do any stringers in a glass boat yet so others can jump in here. Just my 2 cents.

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 1 month ago #115710

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Definitely seal the ribs prior to installing them. Bob uses CPES, I use resin and CSM or 1708 Bi-axial mat if the budget allows.

The "hard spot" theory is one that was brought up to me during my last rebuild a couple years back, not sure how much merit there is to it but here's what I did. Put 1/4" rubber spacers under the stringers then filled the contact area with PL Premium adhesive. (Holds and is water proof but remains somewhat flexible). After that was allowed to dry and gas out overnight I continued with filets and glassed in the stringers completely.

Here's a link to my rebuild thread if you would like to check it out; www.fiberglassics.com/fiberglassics-forums/home/member-projects/new-project-71-glastron-gt-150#31614

I've known of many rebuilds where the stringers and/or ribs were glassed in to the floor just using thickened resin and there was never a problem with the hard spots, so all this work very well may have been overkill?

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 1 month ago #115716

Waterwings Offline Contributing Member Posts: 4887 Karma: 107 Thank you received: 100	Thinking about this some more, wouldn't there be a problem if the stringers were bedded in a flexible compound then glassed in. Wouldn't the glass crack from flexing? Bob Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 9 years 1 month ago #115718

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Thanks guys. I already have the CPES ready to go. I still have some notching to do for the upper supports.

My first thought was also the 5200 and I also thought about PL Premium. That's why I thought I'd ask. Remaining flexible seems somewhat contradicting. On the other hand, I know from first hand experience grinding out the old tabbing, that the fiberglass is very strong.

I've seen on some other sites that the stringers are just seated in resin thickened with cabosil, which I assume would be completely hard and inflexible. That would make the entire surface a hard spot, or a moot point I suppose.

I just want to do it right, and never again (on this boat. haha).

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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 9 months ago #119302

vintage B Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 1 Thank you received: 0	hi,just bought a barn find 1964 del rio imperial.sat in a garage since early 90s.1964 tee nee trailer,1964 jonsen 60hp.seats are in as new condition have some work to get it ready for spring. was in the same family since new.will post pictures soon.Dave Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 5 months ago #123183

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	I would love to see pictures. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124541

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Finding time to work on the boat has been challenging, but here's some updates: Ribs shaped and epoxied. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124543

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Transom "glue-up". Fiberglass fabric epoxied between to transom layers. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124544

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	One layer 1708 biaxial mat epoxied to inside face of hull skin. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124545

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Transom epoxied in. Temporary outer panel screwed through for even pressure while epoxy dries. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124546

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Transom in place and solid as heck. I'm very happy. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124548

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Ribs in and filleted. Ready for fiberglass. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124549

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	All hole repaired on outer skin of transom. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124550

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Getting ready to fiberglass. This is my custom fabric rack. The right side can hold 2 ton rolls of fabric and the left side can carry 250 lbs. Attachments: Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124551

Firstglassproject Offline Gold Boarder Posts: 581 Thank you received: 3	Welcome Jim and I must say you do good work ! Should be a beauty when you're done if you put half that effort into the exterior. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124552

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	Thank you! I can't wait to actually start making it pretty. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124554

Modeler Offline Junior Boarder Posts: 102 Karma: 3 Thank you received: 0	You're making great progress! Looks all shiny and new inside, nice work! Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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Re:1964 Crestliner Del Rio 8 years 3 months ago #124555

jimdelrio Offline Fresh Boarder Posts: 34 Thank you received: 0	I ended up bedding the ribs in PL Premium which held great. The ribs are solid and the entire boat is locked together again like it should be. After the PL Premium cured, I followed up with fillets from epoxy thickened with Cabosil. That seems the way to go. They're ready for tabbing in. Check this box to be notified of replies to this topic. Note: BBcode and smileys are still usable.
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