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Chrysler Rebuild 8 months 1 week ago #149389
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Spent the day wiring relays. Only place I could find red, green and blue #14 was Home Depot.
TA-DAH!!! IT WORKS!!! Thanks for all the info, advice and 'specially the pics. I would never have been able to wire those 5 pin thing-a-ma-bobs without the pics. I just followed colors. As I said before for some reason when I see "relay" my mind just turns to Jello(er) than normal. Mounting them inside the cowl made wiring so much easier, only wires I had to run were red, green and blue to the dash switch. That slave on the transom works great. The one pic of them mounted is before I tie-wrapped everything neatly. 
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Chrysler Rebuild 8 months 1 week ago #149390
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Good work! You're gonna love having that extra switch at the stern, makes it very handy when you're working on things back there.
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Chrysler Rebuild 8 months 1 week ago #149392
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Thanks Jim, as the song goes "get by with a little help from my friends". I used your finger picture more than anything else
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Chrysler Rebuild 8 months 1 week ago #149393
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Dropped the LU this morning and blew air through the lines, all clear and air came out the thermostat housing. Ran a spin test on the pump and got a small trickle that I could stop with my finger. Pulled the pump apart and there was a 1/2" gap broken out of the old gasket that I thought I could fill with gasket maker on the first impeller replacement. That does NOT work. Made a new gasket with material I have and spinning with my 'lectric drill I cannot stop the great flow with the finger, It spit back at me.
I took a video of the flow but unable to upload it here. Also plugged the feed pipe and poured white vinegar in the thermostat housing and let it soak for an hour, should loosen up any calcium. After it soaks now I;ll shove a hose up its butt just to double check nothing is remaining. Nothing like reviving an old outboard,,...smells like.....victory! 
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Chrysler Rebuild 8 months 5 days ago #149396
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Spent the last few days working on seats. Time is limited with fall outside cleanup taking precedent before the freezing temps continue.
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Chrysler Rebuild 8 months 4 days ago #149397
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Finally finished the two front seats. It was a challenge with the swivel pedestals vs box seats. The original install was with small screws into rubber plugs with some type of anchor, they pulled right out and everything was rusty. I filled the old holes with silly cone and used wood anchors(?) with 3/8" bolts 8 each pedestal. They seem to be solid. I couldn't think of any other way since the floor is on solid foam with no way a butterfly would unfold. yes the foam is dry,
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 3 weeks ago #149402
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Seats look great!
If the silicon and anchors don't hold, you might consider enlarging your original holes and filling them with West System Six10 epoxy. Listed uses include 'structural gap filling'. Once cured, you can drill/tap for new screws. Should work well with the foam and may standup to the environment better than the wood anchors while also preventing future rot.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 3 weeks ago #149403
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That's a great suggestion, never crossed my mind. Hope it never comes to that but that would be plan B.
The boat will always be stored indoors out of rain, snow etc. The anchors seem to be holding great now, I'm sitting on the seats while I construct framework for the rear seating arrangement. |
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 3 weeks ago #149404
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Spent the past few days contemplating (?) the rear seat arrangement until my daughter suggested something completely off the wall. This small 16' boat has (had) absolutely no storage area at all, just four pedestal seats plopped front and back and closed bow. Function dictates form here. I needed to place 2 6 gallon gas tanks near the motor plus storage for life jackets, ropes, anchor etc. So she suggested a curvy back and it works with legroom to spare. The past week was all wood work, framing, figuring curves and materials. Upholstery, cushions and back rests are in the thinking stage.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 3 weeks ago #149405
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A short note here. After restoring these classics for over 30+ years I accumulated a huge inventory of anchors, life jackets, ropes, you know the drill. When I decided to "retire" a few years ago I practically gave all the stuff away even all my motor manuals (See Jan, Nautilus). Now I'm searching marketplace for life jackets and an anchor which I did manage to find close by. Oh the irony.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 2 weeks ago #149410
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Update on seats. Just have to paint the frames now and then the interior should just about be complete. A lot of cleaning and scrubbing to do and then start on the exterior cosmetics.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 1 week ago #149411
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Motor question. Now that I finally have the tilt/trim working I'm finding that when I lower the motor all the way down it goes down slowly as it should but seems like the last inch or two it "slams" down really giving the transom a shock. I'm thinking the shock absorber is ka-poot. Can those be rebuilt, maybe new 0 rings or something. I see some on e-steal for around $300. ridiculous.
I've rebuilt trim cylinders for JonnyRudes but wondering if the shocks are the same. I've not taken it off yet to really see how weak it is. Other than putting a rubber bumper on the transom. 
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 1 week ago #149412
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Yeah finally back on AGAIN!
Anyway she's looking GREAT! LOve the interior and layout. as far as the shock goes, I think theyr'e rebuildable but i haven't dealty with the Chryslers much, sorry. Bob |
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 1 week ago #149413
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Thanks Bob. Glad to see you back.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 1 week ago #149414
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You might want to pull the shock and see how the compression and rebound feel. There may be issues other than a worn shock.
There's a bunch of used ones on eBay cheap, and some new ones, starting at $120. Copy these search keywords and plug into the Search box: (FA178962, 55FS631962, FS719962) HTH...............ed
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 4 days ago #149415
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Thanks ed. I'm thinking it's maybe not the shock after all, there is still some air in the system. I'm having some issues with dripping from the hydraulic connections on the pump itself. I think I more than likely nicked the flared end of the pipes when trying to put everything back together. I've tried small 0 rings, Teflon thread seal but they keep dripping under pressure, not a squirt just a drip that almost turns into a small run both raising and lowering. Thinking of unscrewing the connections again and using maybe 6 or 800 grit to buff down the inside of the flair. Short of slathering JB on everything and then screwing back together
 I finished up the helm area, laid down a foam pad to cover up all the holes the PO had in there for his finders, sonar, etc. I installed a small Hawkeye depth finder but didn't want to drill another hole in the dash so I made a bezel for it. Also finished putting the base coat of paint(s) on the motor cover. Still have some air brush work to do on it. 
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 4 days ago #149416
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www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.ebay.com/itm/172512803693&ved=2ahUKEwiis_nItrmRAxXu1fACHRpDAGEQFnoECEcQAQ&usg=AOvVaw18beURehPTd--SmYSt-qul
You need brass washers to "fix" worn flase fittings. I just grabbed this link as an example. I don't know what size(s) you need.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 4 days ago #149417
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Thanks Jim. That never crossed my mind and I didn't know they were available. I'll see if I can source them locally at ACE, maybe in the small engine repair. They would be tiny. I'll have to mic the flair outside dia. Sure they work like a crush washer on a banjo bolt.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 2 days ago #149418
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Fixed!...for now. searching for those brass/copper washers and came up blank for something that small. Short of going to a hydraulic shop, there are several in my area. For giggles I installed small 0 rings in the two connections that were dripping. The 0 rings are really tiny. I had two spare, they are the ones that go in the fuel fitting connectors of OMC tanks. They seemed to be the perfect fit. Snugged them up, did not overtighten. No leaks. Been two days now with the motor full up and holding.
Starting on cosmetic painting. |
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 1 day ago #149419
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Have you checked McMaster Carr ? They have nearly everything ?
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 1 day ago #149420
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Not yet, putting on hold for now so far so good, Thanks for the info though.
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Chrysler Rebuild 7 months 13 hours ago #149421
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Awesome Cal, fingers crossed that it stays that way.
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 4 weeks ago #149422
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More cosmetics. Painted over the plain jane gold strip with an airbrush highlighted accent stripe.
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 2 weeks ago #149433
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Past few days just puttering around. Lightly scrubbed the freeboard with SOS pads to get 26 years of grime and stains off. Doubt the PO even put any wax on it. The glass is so dry and opened up. Trying to use anything I can to bring back some sort of shine/finish. Tried power buffing with Mcquire's, nope. Slathering on Turtle wax plastic/trim restorer, nope. WD40, nope. motor oil, nope. Armour all, nope. The thing just keeps sucking in all those things like a sponge. Sooner of later it will seal up and I can put a good paste wax on it without it getting blotchy. Maybe Saturday I'll try some actual pure wood floor wax, the old fashioned kind. I also have some floor restore but really don't want to put a plastic coating on it, that's just future problems.
Got 50' of rub rail insert from Amazon to replace the old hard mouldy brittle stuff that was on there. |
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 2 weeks ago #149434
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Cal, I sent you a text too.
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 2 weeks ago #149439
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Finished installing new rub rail insert. PIA hard rubber in 40deg garage. Used my heat gun to warm it up enough to insert inch by inch. I found a way to get the shine back, you'd never guess in a hunnerd years. Quite by accident like all new discoveries. For giggles I put on an old foam pad and on low speed buffed in Armor All. Dirty ol' pad full of wax, polish and who knows what else. Surprisingly it filled in the micro pores and after three days has not faded. The pic shows the bottom portion of the freeboard done and the upper portion above the blue line was not done and you can see how bad it really was.
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 2 weeks ago #149441
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I appreciate this comment is too late. Clean garbage can full of warm soapy water may have eased your rub rail installation. I have a one piece rail on my 20ft boat. Submerged the full length in warm soapy water and dragged the can around the boat as I installed it.
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 2 weeks ago #149443
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I'll remember that for next time
 Seriously I did think of the warm water soak, even using an electric heater around the coil. It's cold in my garage so the water wouldn't stay warm. I did use soapy water in a spray bottle and kept the rail lubricated as I proceeded, that helped. The old stiff rub rail slid out easily because of course it was dry and brittle, lot of dirt and grime behind it also. I measured the old rail i/d and rolled the dice on the internet since there are a few sizes to choose from. The one I chose was the right size thankful for that and fit tight as it should. Thanks you for the insight though. |
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 2 weeks ago #149444
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Should have mentioned, the rub rail and polishing/waxing results look amazing. Especially considering the age of your project!
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 2 weeks ago #149446
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Thank you, that means a lot. With the detail and precision you accomplished. I just like to get these old girls back on the water and possibly do some upgrades. I take some shortcuts but none to compromise. I thought about the cut and polish but the condition of the gelcoat is such that I think rubbing compound would be too aggressive and rub through in spots. When I've done other boats and painted them I would put on no less than 4 applications, sometimes 7 with hardener and then I knew how much I could polish out. I think this will be my last hurrah, age and body are slowing me down.
Working on the cushions for the back seating area this weekend, painting the lower unit and the maybe next week start the topside deck area. |
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Chrysler Rebuild 6 months 5 days ago #149450
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Not a very busy week. cleaning up messes. Ordered new rollers for the trailer, center one was missing, back lead-on was cracked. Designing and figuring out new graphics for the rear freeboard. Ordered new registration numbers from FastSigns. Finished painting LU of the motor.
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Chrysler Rebuild 5 months 3 weeks ago #149451
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Nothing doing the past week, too freekin' cold even in my garage (1deg F outside, 40 inside) Did lay out the lines for graphics and picked up the new reg numbers from FastSgns. Put a new winch strap on the trailer, removed the rotten plastic rope, one of the new rollers for the trailer showed up last Friday.
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Chrysler Rebuild 5 months 1 week ago #149456
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Still no progress but the cold snap is breaking and I can get back to work.
Laptop crashed last week after a Windows 11 "update" bas---terds always do that. Switching all my info to my older MacBook Pro which is more stable than Win11. Planning on finally finishing the rear of the front port seat, I really screwed that thing up somehow. |
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Chrysler Rebuild 4 months 1 week ago #149472
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Finally warming up somewhat. At least in the 40s. Installed two new rollers on the trailer, new winch strap, painted the area for the new registration numbers. Gradually narrowing down the punch list. All cosmetic projects now that can be easily finished up with warmer weather approaching. Had FastSigns cut new name for the transom.
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Chrysler Rebuild 4 months 1 week ago #149475
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Sweet she's coming along nicely! Can't wait to see the name on the transom and the launch.?
Bob |
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Chrysler Rebuild 4 months 1 week ago #149477
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Bob are you going to come to WI & participate in person?
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Chrysler Rebuild 4 months 1 week ago #149479
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Jim,
If I wasn't traveling so much for work, hell yes I would! For now, I'll just have to live vicariously through the pics.  Bob |
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Chrysler Rebuild 3 weeks 3 days ago #149590
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Hey Cal, how is the boat, is she launched yet? Sorry haven't been ablt to get in and finally got a break from all the work going on.
Bob |
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