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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 3 weeks ago #71248
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I have had to do the same thing with a trailer years ago. Made getting in and out really easy plus I didn't have to spend half the time trying to reach for stuff. Getting to old to be doing the ladder thing every 5 minutes when you forget something. I made a large stand to put my tools on so i could reach them easyer beside the boat. Skip.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 3 weeks ago #71340
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So far I've been pleased with what I have found on this project but today I confirmed what I expected. This particular model has the top and bottom stapled together using an outside lip and then a big ol fat rubber bumper covering the mess up. First time I've ever seen one put together like this. I removed the ugly bumper (went right in the garbage). Next step will be putting a bead of 5200 on the seam from the inside and then glassing the two halves together also on the inside and then cut off the outside lip to make a flush surface and one whole solid vessel. When the mahogany gunwales are installed they will also beef up the seam from the outside.
The outside stapled lip that sticks out about 3/4" 
The seam from the inside. 
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 3 weeks ago #71343
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Great plan Cal, that should look very smooth and be very durable.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71595
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Did some small steps over the past weeks. Put 5200 on the inside of those seams and let that set for a week then trimmed off that ugly scar sandwhich on the outside. Had to pull the bow area back in shape where the two halves were about 1/4" mismatched. I used small strips of hardwood to pull the halves together and then glassed on both the inside and outside. Have to trim up and put on a second layer of cloth to make sure it's beefy. Filled the inspection holes back in on the deck and glassed them with matt.
Where the bow area was pulled back in shape and then glassed. 
The port side seam glassed 
The bow area glassed from the inside also. The floatation had to be cut away so I could get access to the bow, that is just as itchey as glass. The other area of floatation that is missing is where the coons scratched away for their bedding. 
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71599
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Outstanding, that's going to look like it should have if it was hand made! Much better than original.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71601
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cal, i like your idea of getting rid of the seam. i wonder if that would work on my rocket, the top fits over the sides , kinda like a lid on an old coffee can. it sticks out about 1/8 inch and hangs down about an inch. sure would love to get rid of the rub rail. what kind of ideas do you have for me on that. thanks . frog
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71603
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Frog, I would not want to give advice to anyone. What I am doing is out of necessity to accomplish my "woodie" look. I don't know if what I am doing will compromise the integrity to the whole project, all I know is that it was one big ugly seam that didn't allow me to get the mahogany set where I want it to be. I think that "coffee can" overlap would be a lot stronger than what I am doing. My plan is to put mahogany 5" down the outside of the side and then secure both halves with the wood through bolted with stainless, of course plugging over the screw heads.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71604
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Filled in the inspection holes that I drilled the other week and matted them solid.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71647
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Smooth baby smooth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71771
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Did some steam bending yesterday for the bow curves.
Pay no attention to the design of my steam generator, purely coincidental to any other functioning device. 
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71772
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63 Sabre wrote:
 Think I saw one of those in the north GA mountains, but the guy ran me off with a rifle! |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71773
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63 sabre,
My family made "a pretty good living" for decades with a device that looked just about the same. (How many gallons of corn per hour will it distill?) CHUCKLE. yours, satx |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 12 years 1 week ago #71779
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Don't get the wrong idea here. I use that to cook down my maple syrup in spring.
Started rough mounting the mahogany boards today for fitting out. Still have to finish removing the starboard seams and glassing over the gaps. Posting will be off for a week or so, my laptop is in the shop for repairs. Broken hinge on the flip screen. $$$$ Have to use the other halves' PC.  |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 11 months ago #72786
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Christmas projects/honey do are done for the next few days, finally got a chance to do something to the Shell. Starting to rough out some of the mahogany planking and dry fitting. Lots of joiner work ahead.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 11 months ago #72788
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Cal,
Outstanding, that's going to look GREAT! Are you going to keep the planking Mahogany color or bleach it? Bob |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 11 months ago #72795
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Mahogany color, maybe a light stain. Beveled edges on the decking planks with a white 5200 adhesive. I have the strange feeling this is going to be a several year project like my Sabe was. (three years)
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 11 months ago #72796
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Wow and I've been telling myself the Resorter will take a year! High hopes I guess. That's going to to look good, good plan.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 11 months ago #72799
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This is going to be one sweet looking deck when you get it done. It shouldn't take you tooooo long once you get going on it. You should be able to float her by next summer. Skip.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 11 months ago #72800
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Looks like your "steamer" did the trick very well, that is going to be a beauty when she's done - I agree. Take your time and work at your own pace Cal, we're just tickled to see you tackle another project!
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73159
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Finally getting some quality time on the project. Starting to fit the deck boards in place as a mock up. Still have to frame the underside. The top deck is so out of line and caved in there's going to be a lot of fine tuning to get it straightened out. Started cutting more plugs for covering up the screws/bolts.
Plugs 
Starting to fit in the upper deck. This is taking a lot of time. 
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73160
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Looks like your moving right along there Cal.I know that it is alot of fun cutting plugs. That deck is gonna look really sharp when you get done with it. Keep up the great work. Skip.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73174
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She's looking great Cal!
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73176
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Thanks for the encouragement. A little bit every day I have a chance. Today I cut more strips for the bow, planed them down and chamfored the edges. Still haven't figured out how I'm going to frame between the glass deck and the boards. That glass bow is really warped out of shape, nothing is square or even but you fellas all know how that is
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73183
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Hi Cal,
I have same type of problem with a deck that is cracked and sunken down along the crack. The question is: How do you get the deck back to shape ? My solution is going to be the same principle as a contour gauge. I'm still designing it, but here is the prototype Mine will be called the RE-contour gauge. it will be a level frame supported by the hull at the bottom, under the deck. The vertical stiles of the frame will be single bolted to the horizontal rails Horizontal Slotted hole at the top with a bolt (bottom bolt to be used as pivots) when I pinch the contour pins together to keep them from dropping, with a ratchet strap near the top . (See picture) I plan on wedging the contour pins under the deck to push it back to the desired shape, and maybe hold the pin in place with a speed screw (drywall screw) I plan on making the thing out of free pallet slats to save some cash. I still don't know how wide to make the pins yet ? I'll figure that out when I make a few. But like always "More are better". The tops of the pins will need to be domed for single point contact. I'm sure I'll need more than 1 gauge too. Take the idea for what it's worth ? It may work, it may not ? But this is how I'm going to try it on mine... 
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73526
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Chuck, looks like it would work. The deck on my project is so out of whak no bracing from underneath will come close to a fix. It is off be several inches, looks like the sun beat down on it so long it melted in
I wound up making framing for under the slats, both port and starboard are completely different, off by inches. Did some work on it all today. Finished framing both sides and then started fitting the slats in. framing is 10" apart making it rock solid. More drilling, counter sinking, screwing, plugging yet to come and then have to fair the whole thing. Probably won't do that until I can get the whole boat outside where I can make lots of sanding dust. Framing on starboard side. 
After all the measuring, drilling and screwing. 
From the cockpit. 
Each individule slat is held in with 12 screws and bedded in with 3m 5200. |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73530
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Very nice Cal, she's going to look awesome!
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73536
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That is one sharp looking deck you got there Cal. Looks like your haveing way tooo much fun working on it. Can't wait to see the finnished project. Skip.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73542
X2! That's going to be gorgeous, very nice work Cal. |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 10 months ago #73590
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Wow, nice work !!! I hope my project turns out half as good ?
It's going to be nice watching the progress ! |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73769
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Workin' my way to the stern.
Still working with 100% Honduran mahogany 'cept for some framework. |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73788
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I love the way it is coming along. Thanks for keeping us updated / glued to the progress.
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Great to be on board.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73805
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Excellent work as usual Cal. She's coming along nicely!
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73809
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cal,another perfect job,i love following this postnow that i remember that there is a member projects forum.lol,john
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\"too soon old,too late smart\" my pap
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.“ ---Mark Twain |
Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73814
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John, sit back read the Sunday funnies and recoup.
Forgot how tight the quarters are in my work area for the winter. Fired up the steamer this morning to bend some more wood. It is nice and warm though
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73832
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Hey cal, forgot to mention your steamer looks much simpler than the Dannenberg model he built. how do you refill the water without taking it apart?
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73842
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I just put a few gallons of water in there and fire her up. Never had to refill. I suppose I could put a threaded plug in the top somewhere.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73847
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I'm looking for the cheapest way to build one. Budgets going to be tight on the Century I think.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73859
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This one is made from an old swimming pool filter, used to hold 14 fiber cartridges. Now it holds about 10 gallosn of water. I just capped the bottom in/out holes with plumbing ends, got an old salamander from a contractor friend of mine. The condensing tower is optional. Some I've seen made from old small water heaters. I guess anything that you can boil water with will work. Check out some of the local restaurant suppliers, they might have old used cookers that can be converted. Just a thought.
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73873
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Hey not a bad idea, I'll have to keep my eye out.
Bob |
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 11 years 9 months ago #73931
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Re:Shell Lake Rebuild 2 Days, 23 Hours ago Karma: 42
John, sit back read the Sunday funnies and recoup ,im sorry cal,i wasnt trying to be a smart a##,i really do forget about this section sometimes,it must be my a d d kicking in,lol. i have been missing alot here,including your great restoration.john |
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\"too soon old,too late smart\" my pap
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.“ ---Mark Twain |
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